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15 March 2007

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Rob

Yes, you are brilliant!

Hawkeye

Of course, brilliant people are known to spend time with like-minded peers... ;)

rap

We already know who you are, Valerie Plame!

Nuthatch

All three of my friends have now weighed in...

Is there anything else in the world to discuss?

The less we know, the more they say. This back-and-forth is-too-is-not is just ludicrous and exhausting. Nothing is being learned by anyone. What a waste of papers (and electrons). What downgrades Collinson's work is his lack of credentials for the work he did for this paper- e.g., he is an amateur doing an amateur analysis. His expertise appears to be cell development. Because he knows how to write a paper in journal style, he was able to get this amateur analysis published in an online-only journal. Someday, online journals may be considered the full equivalent of traditional society-based journals, but that isn't the case now. Right now, most of these journals, including the one he published in, don't even have impact factor ratings. This journal is peer-reviewed, but the competition for publication space is minimal at best. Despite the peer-review, I regard this particular paper as little more than a blog-level argument.

Believe what you want about the IBWO, but not on the basis of this paper.

That he's just one more person who wants to argue on the basis of virtually nothing is revealed in his characterization of Cornell's very mild comment: he calls it "backlash." Oh please. They barely took notice of it. But he's loaded for bear...

Mike

A nuthatch by any other name still sounds as smart.

Martin Collinson

'The less we know, the more they say. This back-and-forth is-too-is-not is just ludicrous and exhausting....'

Ouch, you saw through me there, right enough. I have no response :-)

The opinion of online journals carrying less weight than traditional printed society based journals might well be your view, but I can't see any support for it within my section of the community. Can't speak for other journals, such as ACE for example, but I published 4 times in BMC journals now, and each time the reviews have been tough and lengthy, and I've reviewed for them 3-4 times, and each time my reports have been tough and lengthy, and papers do get rejected, notwithstanding infinite journal space. In 20 years time, how many journals will *not* be online open access? not many of them, I think. Is there ANY justification for continuing to print, for example PNAS? When was the last time anyone went down to the library to read it in hard copy?

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